• Title: La gran matanza de los gatos y otros episodios en la historia de la cultura francesa
  • Author: Robert Darnton
  • ISBN: 9789681625
  • Page: 136
  • Format: Paperback
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    One Reply to “La gran matanza de los gatos y otros episodios en la historia de la cultura francesa”

    1. The rating is for the first essay alone. This essay is on fairy tales from France that we mostly have versions of. I learned three things:1. The French do not have nursery rhymes!2. French fairy tales are often very bawdy indeed. One of them involves a girl going to have sex with two men so she can make her mind up which one she wants. This is a lot better than the UK passive princess is the reward the king, her father, gives to some handsome guy who can complete a load of stupid tasks.3. The ta [...]

    2. Given the peculiarities of the Irish educational system, at the end of 10th grade there was a forced choice between physics and history, so my formal study of history ended when I was 14. I was happy to be rid of it at the time - my brain did fine with analytical stuff like science and languages, but history was just too unruly to get a handle on and it always brought down my grade average. And, of course, at age 14 it was completely impossible to think of it as anything but useless.Naturally, I [...]

    3. Most history of the early modern period written more than a generation ago was what Robert Darnton identifies as “top-down” history: it is the history of royalty, nobles, and the intellectual elites whose ideas largely defined the times. But this contribution, along with Natalie Zemon Davis’ “The Return of Martin Guerre” and Carlo Ginzburg’s “The Cheese and the Worms,” is essential in introducing a more egalitarian, social, “bottom-up” history that emphasizes regular people. [...]

    4. Do social conditions determine popular beliefs? Robert Darnton challenges the widely held assumption that cultural systems derive from social orders, and takes the beetle's eye view, picking out quirky sources that reveal the viewpoint of the 'native', dissecting what they say to then draw conclusions about the world they lived in. A careful and rather long-winded examination of fairy tales throws light on the living conditions of peasants under the Old Regime. Their lives were nasty, brutish an [...]

    5. This is an enterprise in ethnographic history. The author,a historian, borrows from anthropology in an attempt to reconstruct the view of the world of the 18th century Frenchman. It focuses on different documents originating from different environments so as to present the worldview from several perspectives. First, it's the peasants and their fairy tales. The authentic ones, not those rewrote by Perrault or the Grimms. Second, it's an accout of a cat massacre by some journeymen. The next chapte [...]

    6. Probably a bit biased going into it, having absorbed much of the criticism against it by cultural osmosis, but a very interesting read. Methodologically flawed, but makes some interesting points about the intersection of social and cultural histories -- ie. that one does not precisely flow into the other, and understanding society does not necessarily mean that you will understand its culture.Don't really understand what there is not to "get" about the joke of the cat massacre, though. Whoops, I [...]

    7. Historiographically speaking, the Great Cat Massacre is "old news": The profession has long since embraced the "pastness of the past" and sent its leading practitioners plunging into the archives to discover what was so "other" about the lost mentalités of 18th century French journeymen, 17th century pirates, &c. Nevertheless, the titular essay retains much of its original luster, given the high entertainment value of the story that's being examined (a massacre of cats, most notably the fav [...]

    8. The first chapter was interesting and had me hooked on the idea of the "otherness" of people in the past. Plus, the fairy tales were wonderfully odd and interesting (okay, and quite disturbing).The second chapter (The Great Cat Massacre) has a unique pretext and continues the "otherness" theme, although it's even more disturbing to modern sensibilities. Which is, I believe, the thesis of the book. It's gruesome, but of special interest for its insight into a typesetting shop of the period.It's a [...]

    9. This is collection of essays, albeit all serving a common purpose, and it would be sufficiently interesting to write a review discussing any one of them. Each chapter is built around a contemporary record or document, of which a sample is given at the close of the chapter. The first obtains insights into the way French peasants may have thought about their world in the middle 18th Century, by examining the stories they told their children. These have been preserved in written form, altered to se [...]

    10. Kitap özünde bir tarih metodolojisi kitabı. Zaten önsözünde üniversite derslerinin notları olduğu belirtilmiş. Burjuva ve kent ile ilgili bölümü hariç tutarak -aşırı sıkıcı olması hasebiyle- çok keyifli ve ilgi çekici bir kitaptı. Tarih alanında yapılabilecek alternatif okuma biçimlerine herkese hitap edebilecek, okurken kendimizden de birşeyler katabileceğimiz hikayelerden örnekler veriyor. Bir kez daha bağlamın ne kadar önemli olduğunu ve sadece olguları arka [...]

    11. This is one of the first history books I read for pleasure. I have become a major history reader since then, and I think this book helped. I have re-read it several times over the past 30 years and still enjoy it.Six 'episodes' are discussed, all from pre-revolutionary France (aka 'Ancien Regime') in roughly chronological order. All are based on written texts and most are private, handwritten items. The author examines aspects of culture that are not often covered because they can neither be qua [...]

    12. Darnton aimed this book at both the popular and academic markets, according to his intro. I suspect the real market is college students assigned this book for a class. In this subject, I am part of the popular market, and this book did not work that well for me. Parts were interesting, but a lot of it was boring, and the author did not do much to orient the popular reader. Would it have been too much to include a map of cities featured in the book? And, for the encyclopedia section, include the [...]

    13. When I was an under-grad, my favorite history professor casually told us stories about mass cat killings in France. If she told us more about it, I don't remember but it caused me to pick this book up at the used book store. This is a cultural history of pre-Revolution France. The author has given himself a hard job, trying to identify the Frenchman's "mentalité" and he does a decent enough job. I like cultural histories, so this was right in my wheelhouse. There's not a lot of conclusions to d [...]

    14. Darnton is one of the seventies scholars who have been delving into the lives of ordinary folks, a difficult task as there is relatively little written record. One has to trace the evidence of their lives, as people who didn't read or write didn't exactly leave diaries or letters.Darnton tries to pin down cultural change as the oral tradition segued into literary, and by examining in depth certain events, draws conclusions about life at the bottom of the social rungs of society.

    15. Really well written, although a bit long-winded at times, as if the author had way too much research to actually compress into a readable article and had to laundry-list the information at times to squeeze it all in. Two main comments: (1) cultural history is the best history EVER, and (2) the French are really sick, twisted weirdos -- or at least they were in all their history. If you love cats, don't read book's eponymous chapter, just skip right over it and read the rest.

    16. Essentially an attempt to recreate the mindset of the French proletariat and petit bourgeoisie during the 18th century. I thought it was enjoyable and interesting but then I love this sort of investigative history. Although I will admit the subject is a bit abstract and I can imagine for a lot of people it would be dull to tears. But screw those people, I dug it.

    17. I read this for the essay on Perrault. The title essay was good as well. The rest were somewhat boring.

    18. Read this for an undergrad history course. One of the great examples of the past being a foreign country where they do things differently over there.

    19. Uno dei punti fondamentali di Darnton é l'idea che per comprendere l'Altro sia necessario comprendere come egli organizzi il reale. Ovvero, se vogliamo comprendere l'Altro dobbiamo riuscire a seguire la sua divisione del mondo. Ma l'Altro, secondo condo punto fondamentale, non é mai un Altro generico. Ha delle caratteristiche eterogenee, ma precise: contadino, stampatore, borghese, intellettuale, autore. E, ognuno di loro, ha un diverso modo di organizzare la realtà per due motivi abbastanza [...]

    20. Textbook for a French Revolution class I'm taking. Proceeds through six chapters, each an essay on a different aspect of Old Regime France: peasant folklore, artisan printer's guilds, a bourgeoisie trying to organize his world, a police inspector keeping tabs on the philosophes, D'Alembert organizing a tree of knowledge the undercuts Catholic authority, and Rousseau writing an epistolary novel that changed how readers relate to fiction. My favorite thing about this book is the writer's approach [...]

    21. Чудова книжка! Особливо крутий розділ про казки, про нещасних котиків і останній - про те, як люди XVIII ст читали (загалом це ж особлива тема - одна річ, що написано у тексті, інша - що людина там прочитає і зрозуміє, адже, коли ми читаємо текст, ми видіяємо з нього, конструюємо пев [...]

    22. I heard about this book a long time ago, probably in the context of a university history subject that was attempting to give students an overview of different ways of approaching the writing of history; it was preparatory to undertaking Honours. It was probably mentioned by Peter McPhee, discussing the idea of cultural history. At any rate, I thought of it on and off but never got around to it, and then a friend gave me a copy when culling their library of extraneous books. So I read it today. A [...]

    23. With a title like this, you're hard pressed to make a boring book. Darnton succeeds well at making a wonderful book about folklore, "fakelore", and French history.

    24. This book's chapters are good examples of how to structure a historical essays based on a specific set of sources.

    25. Fascinating glimpse into another time, another culture, another society. Darnton keeps it interesting as well as informative.

    26. Unconvincing and judgmental.It promises an insight into people's mentalities in 18th c. France, complete with a "Great Cat Massacre", for "the general reading public, as well as for scholars". Unfortunately, while the first chapter was fun and the second was interesting, the book went downhill from there. The fifth chapter is nearly incomprehensible if you don't know your Locke and Acquinas, to be able to follow Darnton's points. Sometimes, he judges social categories which judged each other for [...]

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